[Massplanners] Petitioned Zoning Amendments

Thomas Bott tbott.townplanner at verizon.net
Fri Feb 3 12:57:49 EST 2023


Dear Kristina:Just engaging in the Friday rules of engagement.TBott
Thomas Bott Carver Town Planner
You too could follow me on Twitter @TBottPlimoth but it clearly isn’t necessary 

    On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 12:55:24 PM EST, Kristina Johnson <kjohnson at townofhudson.org> wrote:  
 
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Thanks to all who responded. And as always TBott, you win the sarcasm and snark award.😊
 
  
 
Kristina Johnson, AICP
 
Director of Planning &Community Development
 
Town of Hudson,  MA
 
President, Mass. Association of Planning Directors
 
Tel: 978-562-2989 
 
Cell:  857-939-3427
 
Email:kjohnson at townofhudson.org
 
  
 
From: Thomas Bott <tbott.townplanner at verizon.net> 
Sent: Friday, February 3, 2023 12:34 PM
To: Maren Toohill <mtoohill at littletonma.org>; Kristina Johnson <kjohnson at townofhudson.org>; Christopher Ryan <cryan at duxbury-ma.gov>
Cc: MassPlanners at masscptc.org
Subject: Re: [Massplanners] Petitioned Zoning Amendments
 
  
 
Dear Kristina:
 
One of the things that endeared me to the frequent petitioners in Falmouth was adding the fee to the Petition Form
 
https://www.falmouthma.gov/DocumentCenter/View/1745/Article-Petition-Form--------Print-on-8-12-x-14-paper-double-sided
 
Hopefully at $200 it will take a few bake sales to apply for some of the half baked petitions. 
 
TBott
 
  
 
Thomas Bott Carver Town Planner
 
  
 
You too could follow me on Twitter @TBottPlimoth but it clearly isn’t necessary
 
  
 
  
 
On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 11:19:29 AM EST, Christopher Ryan via MassPlanners <massplanners at masscptc.org> wrote: 
 
  
 
  
 
Thanks Maren
 
 
 
That would be beneficial. In our case, the petitioner INSISTED on a separate Special Town Meeting which precludes bundling, and not certain if the Town is absorbing the other costs of holding this session, but it would be punitive, esp. given that our Annual is just a few weeks later. Ugh.
 
 
 
Best
 
 
 
Chris
 
 
 
From: Maren Toohill <MToohill at littletonma.org>
Sent: Friday, February 3, 2023 11:09 AM
To: Kristina Johnson <kjohnson at townofhudson.org>; Christopher Ryan <cryan at duxbury-ma.gov>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: Petitioned Zoning Amendments
 
 
 
Littleton adopted several longstanding policies – it’s been helpful to have these to point to.
 
 
    
   - Town will not consider any citizen zoning petitions later than 90 days prior to a Town Meeting.
   - Petitioner must pay for legal ad plus a $300 administrative fee.
 
 
 
Littleton PB does offer to meet with “potential petitioners” to discuss if the issue will be sponsored by the PB, and in that case it wouldn’t be a citizens petition.
 
 
 
Thanks, and good to hear from you!
 
Maren
 
 
 
 
 
From: MassPlanners [mailto:massplanners-bounces at masscptc.org]On Behalf Of Kristina Johnson via MassPlanners
Sent: Friday, February 3, 2023 10:34 AM
To: massplanners at masscptc.org
Subject: [Massplanners] Petitioned Zoning Amendments
 
 
 


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Hello Friends and Colleagues,
 
 
 
A Friday question for my municipal peeps…for petitioned zoning amendments, who is responsible for paying for the legal advertisements for the statutory public hearing? The petitioner (s)? The property owner? The municipality? Here is Hudson this cost is borne by my Department’s Ad budget; and, as you all know, the cost for legal ads adds up quick. Lately, we are getting a lot of petitioned articles (many we don’t even support), and this cost is wiping out my budget.
 
  
 
Let me know how your municipality handles this cost.
 
 
 
Thanks, and stay warm.
 
Best,
 
Kristina
 
 
 
Kristina Johnson, AICP
 
Director of Planning &Community Development
 
Town of Hudson,  MA
 
President, Mass. Association of Planning Directors
 
Tel: 978-562-2989 
 
Cell:  857-939-3427
 
Email:kjohnson at townofhudson.org
 
 
 
  
 
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