<html><head></head><body><div class="ydpbdb32109yahoo-style-wrap" style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:16px;"><div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Dear Kristina:</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Just engaging in the Friday rules of engagement.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">TBott</div><div><br></div><div class="ydpbdb32109signature"><div style="font-family:new times, serif;font-size:16px;"><div>Thomas Bott Carver Town Planner</div><div><br></div><div><i id="ydpfb687fb8yiv6753380931yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1519652102965_53159" style="background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);"><font id="ydpfb687fb8yiv6753380931yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1519652102965_53160" color="#4c76a2">You too could follow me on Twitter @TBottPlimoth but it clearly isn’t necessary</font></i></div></div></div></div>
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On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 12:55:24 PM EST, Kristina Johnson <kjohnson@townofhudson.org> wrote:
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<p class="yiv5750458877MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:serif;color:#1F497D;">Thanks to all who responded. And as always TBott, you win the sarcasm and snark award.
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<p class="yiv5750458877MsoNormal"><i><span style="color:#1F497D;">Kristina Johnson, AICP</span></i></p>
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<p class="yiv5750458877MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:serif;color:#1F497D;">President, Mass. Association of Planning Directors</span></p>
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<p class="yiv5750458877MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:serif;color:#1F497D;">Cell: 857-939-3427</span></p>
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<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:kjohnson@townofhudson.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:kjohnson@townofhudson.org"><span style="color:#1F497D;">kjohnson@townofhudson.org</span></a></span></p>
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<p class="yiv5750458877MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Thomas Bott <tbott.townplanner@verizon.net> <br clear="none">
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, February 3, 2023 12:34 PM<br clear="none">
<b>To:</b> Maren Toohill <mtoohill@littletonma.org>; Kristina Johnson <kjohnson@townofhudson.org>; Christopher Ryan <cryan@duxbury-ma.gov><br clear="none">
<b>Cc:</b> MassPlanners@masscptc.org<br clear="none">
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Massplanners] Petitioned Zoning Amendments</p>
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<p class="yiv5750458877MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:New serif;">One of the things that endeared me to the frequent petitioners in Falmouth was adding the fee to the Petition Form</span></p>
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<p class="yiv5750458877MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:New serif;"><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fwww.falmouthma.gov%2fDocumentCenter%2fView%2f1745%2fArticle-Petition-Form--------Print-on-8-12-x-14-paper-double-sided&c=E,1,BCMY4yb3ozPqgaeKA57SpGABjJRpV7LV0_DyA1I8ed9fGFY7FFe34zMuB0aV5DgpPe4AqJCyWYR2SD36Znxq4LT2HHZNz47sqmuHZZ1QEg,,&typo=1">https://www.falmouthma.gov/DocumentCenter/View/1745/Article-Petition-Form--------Print-on-8-12-x-14-paper-double-sided</a></span></p>
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<p class="yiv5750458877MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:New serif;">Hopefully at $200 it will take a few bake sales to apply for some of the half baked petitions. </span></p>
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<p class="yiv5750458877MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 11:19:29 AM EST, Christopher Ryan via MassPlanners <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:massplanners@masscptc.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:massplanners@masscptc.org">massplanners@masscptc.org</a>>
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<p class="yiv5750458877ydp47b1c6c4yiv0603144956msonormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">That would be beneficial. In our case, the petitioner INSISTED on a separate Special Town Meeting which precludes bundling, and not
certain if the Town is absorbing the other costs of holding this session, but it would be punitive, esp. given that our Annual is just a few weeks later. Ugh.</span></p>
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<p class="yiv5750458877ydp47b1c6c4yiv0603144956msonormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"> Maren Toohill <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:MToohill@littletonma.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:MToohill@littletonma.org">MToohill@littletonma.org</a>>
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, February 3, 2023 11:09 AM<br clear="none">
<b>To:</b> Kristina Johnson <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:kjohnson@townofhudson.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:kjohnson@townofhudson.org">kjohnson@townofhudson.org</a>>; Christopher Ryan <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:cryan@duxbury-ma.gov" target="_blank" href="mailto:cryan@duxbury-ma.gov">cryan@duxbury-ma.gov</a>><br clear="none">
<b>Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL] RE: Petitioned Zoning Amendments</span></p>
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<p class="yiv5750458877ydp47b1c6c4yiv0603144956msonormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">Littleton adopted several longstanding policies – it’s been helpful to have these to point to.
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">Town will not consider any citizen zoning petitions later than 90 days prior to a Town Meeting.</span></li><li style="color:#1F497D;" class="yiv5750458877ydp47b1c6c4yiv0603144956msolistparagraph">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">Petitioner must pay for legal ad plus a $300 administrative fee.</span></li></ol>
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<p class="yiv5750458877ydp47b1c6c4yiv0603144956msonormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">Littleton PB does offer to meet with “potential petitioners” to discuss if the issue will be sponsored by the PB, and in that case it
wouldn’t be a citizens petition.</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"></span></p>
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<p class="yiv5750458877ydp47b1c6c4yiv0603144956msonormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">Thanks, and good to hear from you!</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"></span></p>
<p class="yiv5750458877ydp47b1c6c4yiv0603144956msonormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">Maren</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Kristina Johnson via MassPlanners<br clear="none">
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, February 3, 2023 10:34 AM<br clear="none">
<b>To:</b> <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:massplanners@masscptc.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:massplanners@masscptc.org">massplanners@masscptc.org</a><br clear="none">
<b>Subject:</b> [Massplanners] Petitioned Zoning Amendments</span></p>
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<p class="yiv5750458877ydp47b1c6c4yiv0603144956msonormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:New serif;color:#26282A;">Hello Friends and Colleagues,
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<p class="yiv5750458877ydp47b1c6c4yiv0603144956msonormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:New serif;color:#26282A;">A Friday question for my municipal peeps…for petitioned zoning amendments, who is responsible for paying for the legal advertisements
for the statutory public hearing? The petitioner (s)? The property owner? The municipality? Here is Hudson this cost is borne by my Department’s Ad budget; and, as you all know, the cost for legal ads adds up quick. Lately, we are getting a lot of petitioned
articles (many we don’t even support), and this cost is wiping out my budget.</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"></span></p>
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<p class="yiv5750458877ydp47b1c6c4yiv0603144956msonormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:New serif;color:#26282A;">Let me know how your municipality handles this cost.</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"></span></p>
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<p class="yiv5750458877ydp47b1c6c4yiv0603144956msonormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:New serif;color:#26282A;">Thanks, and stay warm.
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