[Massplanners] Question about becoming the least patriotic town planner in...

[Harry LaCortiglia]

So....

7 years of elementary school

plus

5 years of jr. and high school

multiplied by

180 Days in the school year

(7+5) x 180 = *2160 times*... depending upon your attendance record...

Happy Holidays All!
H. LaCortiglia
Georgetown


On 12/19/2023 9:14 AM, Lois wrote:
> The Norwell Board of Appeals does not recite the Pledge and never has 
> to my knowledge. I’m with Georgetown and Chelsea on this one! (BTW, 
> Chelsea, I had to recite the pledge through junior high and high school!)
>
> The Select Board does at their meetings and at the Annual Town Meeting 
> (that includes a nonsectarian prayer!).
>
>
> Lois S. Barbour, Chair
> Norwell Board of Appeals
> 781.826.0497 (H)
> 781.248.3757 (C)
> lsbarbour at gmail.com
>
>> On Dec 19, 2023, at 9:04 AM, jwdpro via MassPlanners 
>> <massplanners at masscptc.org> wrote:
>>
>> The Chelsea Planning Board does not recite the Pledge.  It's never 
>> been brought up as an issue in the 30+ years I've been serving as the 
>> staff to the Board.  If the Board directed me to, I would add it to 
>> the agenda, but isn't the 7 years of reciting it each morning in 
>> elementary school enough to show my allegiance?
>>
>> John DePriest
>> Director of Permitting & Land Use Planning
>> City Hall, Rm 106
>> 500 Broadwaye ee
>> Chelsea, MA 02150
>> 617-467-4182
>> jdepriest at chelseama.gov
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
>>
>>
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: "Danielson, Stephanie via MassPlanners" 
>> <massplanners at masscptc.org>
>> Date: 12/15/23 10:55 AM (GMT-05:00)
>> To: Harry LaCortiglia <hlacortiglia at comcast.net>, 
>> massplanners at masscptc.org
>> Subject: Re: [Massplanners] Question about becoming the least 
>> patriotic town planner in...
>>
>> Couldn’t agree more…
>>
>>
>> *From:*MassPlanners <massplanners-bounces at masscptc.org> *On Behalf Of 
>> *Harry LaCortiglia via MassPlanners
>> *Sent:* Friday, December 15, 2023 10:32 AM
>> *To:* massplanners at masscptc.org
>> *Subject:* Re: [Massplanners] Question about becoming the least 
>> patriotic town planner in...
>>
>>
>> Hi Thom,
>>
>> Our Planning Board doesn't do a pledge before, after, or during our 
>> meetings. We're elected officials.
>>
>> Shortly after being elected we pledged to uphold the laws of the 
>> Commonwealth when we were being sworn in by the Town Clerk,.
>>
>> Seems to me that a Pledge of Allegiance before each and every meeting 
>> would be somewhat redundant given that we've already all done it, at 
>> least once.
>>
>> One would have to ask...
>>
>> If the pledge needed to be taken before every meeting that we hold, 
>> does that mean the pledge somehow expires between meetings? At what 
>> point does the Pledge expire?
>>
>> Do Pledges of Allegiance have half-lives?
>>
>> Are they only good for the duration of the meeting and then need to 
>> be renewed at the next meeting? What about when meetings are paused 
>> for only a few minutes? Do we need to "re- pledge" if an intermission 
>> is of a certain length?
>>
>> Good thing it's a Friday...
>>
>> Before anyone asks, we do not play the Star Spangled Banner at the 
>> beginning of the meetings, either. Nor is it softly playing in the 
>> background during the meetings.
>>
>> (Our upcoming meeting may have a Mariah Carey holiday tune playing in 
>> the background though...) https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=fRyhqobl0sk
>> <https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=fRyhqobl0sk>
>>
>> H. LaCortiglia
>> Georgetown
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12/13/2023 12:45 PM, Thomas Bott via MassPlanners wrote:
>>
>>     Dear Planners:
>>
>>     The Board in CranberryLand USA is still working on finding their
>>     way. We have had some very interesting conversations about the
>>     Agenda recently. My question might just make me that most
>>     unpatriotic planner in Murica, but sometimes we have to ask the
>>     tough questions.
>>
>>
>>     Does the Planning Board that you work with recite the Pledge of
>>     Allegiance at the beginning of their meeting? I have been in the
>>     process of updating the Board's Operating Procedures
>>     https://www.carverma.gov/sites/g/files/vyhlif4221/f/uploads/pb_procedures_revised_6-29-2016.pdf
>>      and there are no pledges noted in the policies nor on their
>>     Agenda, nevertheless they persist. No pledges including a Pledge
>>     to the Zoning Bylaw nor a Pledge to the Subdivision Regs not even
>>     a pledge for a Nina Toten Bag
>>     https://shopnpr.org/this-is-nina-totin-bag are cited.
>>
>>
>>     It seems like a regular feature in some communities for the
>>     Select Board but these folks selected the Planning Board for
>>     their public service.
>>
>>     I would be much obliged as well if you wanted to share any of
>>     your policies and procedures.
>>
>>     Thanks much,
>>
>>     TBott, fellow traveler?
>>
>>
>>
>>     Thomas Bott Carver Town Planner
>>
>>
>>     /Practicing Planning in the Commonwealth since the last
>>     Millennium //#TownPlannerSilverJubilee/
>>
>>
>>
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