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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Alan, et.al. \u2013<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> I urge that the CTPC board continue to support MassPlanners.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Many years ago, when CTPC was in rather dire financial shape, the undersigned citizen planner, from the position of a Planning Board Chair and deeply involved in MAPC and MARPA, was involved in collaborating to sustain CTPC. The services which CTPC successfully provides to the Massachusetts planning community should be complemented (as well as complimented) and enhanced, including the virtual networking which CTPC provides both citizen planners and professionals. Some of the most timely and important information which citizen planners receive is delivered through observing the many professional dialogues within MassPlanners. To the extent that the CTPC board is concerned about focusing on its primary constituency, Alan, I suggest that you market the listserve more aggressively so that more citizen planners subscribe to MassPlanners. Although the citizen planners in my municipality at least know of the CTPC educational programs, the percentage which can participate is much lower, I project, then those who would benefit from reading the listserve.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> I infer that paying for CTPC activities remains a challenge. Rather than curtailing activities, I am sure you are considering avenues such as increasing financial (in addition to their teaching resource) contributions from the RPAs, soliciting listserve sponsors from among the larger civil engineering and design firms, and perhaps seeking contributions from those individuals and municipalities who may be in the position to donate financially as well as professionally to CTPS and the larger planning community by means of MassPlanners.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Buzz Constable<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>William G. Constable, Esq. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Constable Conservation Consulting<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>17 Old Lexington Rd<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Lincoln, MA 01773<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>617-719-1771<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> MassPlanners <massplanners-bounces@masscptc.org> <b>On Behalf Of </b>webmaster--- via MassPlanners<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 22, 2025 6:11 AM<br><b>To:</b> Patrice Carson <carsonpl1@yahoo.com>; Mark Archambault <marchambault@shirley-ma.gov>; Richard Harris <rhplanner01075@gmail.com><br><b>Cc:</b> massplanners@masscptc.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Massplanners] [EXTERNAL] Re: massplanners listserv issues<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>HI Patrice,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Massplanners has been hosted and run by CPTC for about 3 years now. CPTC has been paying for the server space ($150/year) and the mailman platform software has been free. Some of the proposed platforms cost substantially more ($1,200/year). CPTC receives all its funding from its planner workshop and annual conference fees and corporate sponsorships. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>It's up to the CPTC Board how they wish to proceed. CPTC mission is aimed at training citizen planners. Massplanners appears to be used mostly by professional planners. Of course, well informed professional planners are important to help citizen planners make reasonable decisions. In a sense we're asking that the fees paid for citizen planner training be used to maintain a service primarily for professional planners.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>CPTC is not a membership organization. We would have to develop a membership system if we were to charge individuals for use of massplanners. Doing so would create more expense and work for an all volunteer organization. It's unlikely the board will choose this option. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Probably more than you wanted to know. The CPTC board will meet in May and hopefully provide more guidance on the direction we are headed.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Alan Pease<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>CPTC Board<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>citizen planner, Ashby Planning Board<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=2 width="98%" align=center></div><div id=divRplyFwdMsg><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> Patrice Carson <<a href="mailto:carsonpl1@yahoo.com">carsonpl1@yahoo.com</a>><br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 16, 2025 8:52 AM<br><b>To:</b> Mark Archambault <<a href="mailto:marchambault@shirley-ma.gov">marchambault@shirley-ma.gov</a>>; Richard Harris <<a href="mailto:rhplanner01075@gmail.com">rhplanner01075@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:massplanners@masscptc.org">massplanners@masscptc.org</a> <<a href="mailto:massplanners@masscptc.org">massplanners@masscptc.org</a>>; <a href="mailto:webmaster@masscptc.org">webmaster@masscptc.org</a> <<a href="mailto:webmaster@masscptc.org">webmaster@masscptc.org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Massplanners] [EXTERNAL] Re: massplanners listserv issues</span> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I know CT Planners listserve is free to users. I'm guessing we've already looked at how they do it?<br><br>Patrice L. Carson, AICP<br>Consultant Planner<o:p></o:p></p></div><div style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:7.5pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif;color:#26282A'>On Wednesday, April 16, 2025 at 11:48:43 AM EDT, Richard Harris via MassPlanners <<a href="mailto:massplanners@masscptc.org">massplanners@masscptc.org</a>> wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif;color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif;color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div id="x_yiv3084495438"><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif;color:#26282A'>There is a 50% tariff on any thing related to planning!<br clear=all><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif;color:#26282A'>Thank you <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif;color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif;color:#26282A'>Richard Harris, AICP<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif;color:#26282A'>PDR, LLC<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif;color:#26282A'>Planning Consultant<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif;color:#26282A'>413-335-5012<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif;color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif;color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div id="x_yiv3084495438yqtfd10878"><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif;color:#26282A'>On Wed, Apr 16, 2025 at 11:45\u202fAM Mark Archambault via MassPlanners <<a href="mailto:massplanners@masscptc.org" target="_blank">massplanners@masscptc.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p class=xyiv3084495438msonormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>I\u2019ll pay for MassPlanners but NOT the damn Tariffs!</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=xyiv3084495438msonormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=xyiv3084495438msonormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'> MassPlanners <<a href="mailto:massplanners-bounces@masscptc.org" target="_blank">massplanners-bounces@masscptc.org</a>><b>On Behalf Of </b>Jeff Lacy via MassPlanners<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 16, 2025 11:36 AM<br><b>To:</b> Fiona Coughlan <<a href="mailto:coughlanf@grafton-ma.gov" target="_blank">coughlanf@grafton-ma.gov</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:massplanners@masscptc.org" target="_blank">massplanners@masscptc.org</a>; <a href="mailto:webmaster@masscptc.org" target="_blank">webmaster@masscptc.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL] Re: [Massplanners] massplanners listserv issues</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=xyiv3084495438msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif;color:#26282A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=xyiv3084495438msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif;color:#26282A'>I\u2019ll pay.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=xyiv3084495438msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif;color:#26282A'>Jeff Lacy<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=xyiv3084495438msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif;color:#26282A'>Rural Planning Associates <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=xyiv3084495438msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif;color:#26282A'>(413) 230-9693<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=xyiv3084495438msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif;color:#26282A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=xyiv3084495438msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif;color:#26282A'>Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=xyiv3084495438msonormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif;color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=xyiv3084495438msonormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif;color:#26282A'>On Apr 16, 2025, at 11:19</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>\u202f</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif;color:#26282A'>AM, Fiona Coughlan via MassPlanners <<a href="mailto:massplanners@masscptc.org" target="_blank">massplanners@masscptc.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></blockquote></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=xyiv3084495438msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>\ufeff</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif;color:#26282A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=xyiv3084495438msonormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif;color:#26282A'>I am also willing to pay!</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=xyiv3084495438msonormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif;color:#26282A'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=xyiv3084495438msonormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'> MassPlanners <<a href="mailto:massplanners-bounces@masscptc.org" target="_blank">massplanners-bounces@masscptc.org</a>><b>On Behalf Of </b>Elizabeth Hughes via MassPlanners<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 16, 2025 11:15 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:massplanners@masscptc.org" target="_blank">massplanners@masscptc.org</a><br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:webmaster@masscptc.org" target="_blank">webmaster@masscptc.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Massplanners] massplanners listserv issues</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=xyiv3084495438msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif;color:#26282A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=xyiv3084495438msonormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>Also willing to pay to have the Massplanners listserv continue!</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI Emoji",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>😊</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=xyiv3084495438msonormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=xyiv3084495438msonormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>Sincerely,</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=xyiv3084495438msonormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>Elizabeth</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=xyiv3084495438msonormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=xyiv3084495438msonormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>Elizabeth Hughes, Town Planner</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=xyiv3084495438msonormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>Town of Concord</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=xyiv3084495438msonormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><a href="https://www.google.com/maps/search/141+Keyes+Road+%0D%0A+Concord,+MA+01742?entry=gmail&source=g" target="_blank">141 Keyes Road</a></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=xyiv3084495438msonormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><a href="https://www.google.com/maps/search/141+Keyes+Road+%0D%0A+Concord,+MA+01742?entry=gmail&source=g" target="_blank">Concord, MA 01742</a></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=xyiv3084495438msonormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>978-318-3290</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=xyiv3084495438msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif;color:#26282A'>-- <br>MassPlanners mailing list<br><a href="mailto:MassPlanners@masscptc.org" target="_blank">MassPlanners@masscptc.org</a><br><a 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