<html>
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">
<style type="text/css" style="display:none;"> P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;} </style>
</head>
<body dir="ltr">
<div class="elementToProof" style="text-align: left; text-indent: 0px; margin: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
I agree that this is too important a channel to let go. I think setting up a donation link to collect the funds to keep things running (if necessary) is a good idea. I'd be willing to make an annual donation / pay.</div>
<div style="text-align: left; text-indent: 0px; margin: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
<br>
</div>
<div style="text-align: left; text-indent: 0px; margin: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
After some quick searching and reading, I can see that replacing Mailman is a challenge. Two solutions not mentioned that came up are phplist.org and groups.io if you want to look into some others.</div>
<div style="text-align: left; text-indent: 0px; margin: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
<br>
</div>
<div style="text-align: left; text-indent: 0px; margin: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
Thanks to those that put time into keeping things running! </div>
<div style="text-align: left; text-indent: 0px; margin: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
<br>
</div>
<div style="text-align: left; text-indent: 0px; margin: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
-Eric</div>
<div class="elementToProof" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
<b><br>
</b></div>
<div id="Signature" class="elementToProof">
<p style="margin: 0in; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(200, 38, 19);"><b>Eric Salerno</b></span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(59, 56, 56);"><b>Housing & Eco. Dev. Director</b></span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(59, 56, 56);"><b>Town of Bedford</b></span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">10 Mudge Way, Bedford, MA 01730</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">Direct: 781.918.4006</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"><img width="218" height="70" style="width: 2.281in; height: 0.739in; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" data-outlook-trace="F:1|T:1" src="cid:de7babeb-daaf-4201-a927-a8e14a35148a"></span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> </p>
</div>
<div id="appendonsend"></div>
<hr style="display:inline-block;width:98%" tabindex="-1">
<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size:11pt" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> MassPlanners <massplanners-bounces@masscptc.org> on behalf of Joanne Zygmunt via MassPlanners <massplanners@masscptc.org><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 16, 2025 10:58 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> webmaster@masscptc.org <webmaster@masscptc.org>; Andrea A. <asmadag@gmail.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> massplanners@masscptc.org <massplanners@masscptc.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Massplanners] massplanners listserv issues</font>
<div> </div>
</div>
<style type="text/css" style="display:none">
<!--
p
{margin-top:0;
margin-bottom:0}
-->
</style>
<div dir="ltr">
<div id="x_d9468fcae8671801792af230c8ff31dac42dde25">
<div id="x_3842376e55604885f4fcb979a5e3dc51c1af70de" style="display:none; font-size:0; color:#ffffff; line-height:0; max-height:0; max-width:0; opacity:0; overflow:hidden">
Me, too. Maybe CPTC could send a donation link and set a goal? Joanne Zygmunt (she/her/hers) Senior Planner, Comprehensive Planning and Sustainability Direct: (774) 539-5059 | Email: jzygmunt@ocpcrpa.
</div>
<table width="100%" id="x_4931d714f06cfa6b5ea9af42e727cf219e18b417" style="font-family:Arial!important; table-layout:auto; font-size:12px; background-color:#dbf5d6; padding:8px!important; border-left:solid 6px #3fae29; border-top:solid 1px #3fae29; border-bottom:solid 1px #3fae29; border-right:solid 1px #3fae29; border-collapse:separate!important">
<tbody>
<tr id="x_2f3ef3b9526baa758e8229b3477ec2d6f7950c2a">
<td style="background-color:#dbf5d6!important; font-family:Arial!important; font-size:12px!important; color:black!important">
This sender is trusted.</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<span id="x_7dd754aa63597b09b1be6f479bef1f0d461cb64f" style="display:none; font-size:0; color:#ffffff; line-height:0; max-height:0; max-width:0; opacity:0; overflow:hidden">sophospsmartbannerend
</span></div>
<div class="x_elementToProof" style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:11pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)">
Me, too. Maybe CPTC could send a donation link and set a goal? </div>
<div class="x_elementToProof" style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:11pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)">
<br>
</div>
<div id="x_Signature" class="x_elementToProof">
<p style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255); margin:0px; font-family:Calibri,sans-serif; font-size:11pt; color:rgb(36,36,36)">
<span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif; line-height:normal"><b>Joanne Zygmun</b>t (she/her/hers)</span></p>
<p style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255); margin:0px; font-family:"Segoe UI","Segoe UI Web (West European)","Segoe UI",-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,Roboto,"Helvetica Neue",sans-serif; font-size:11pt; color:rgb(36,36,36)">
<span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif; line-height:normal">Senior Planner, Comprehensive Planning and Sustainability</span></p>
<p style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255); margin:0px; font-family:Calibri,sans-serif; font-size:11pt; color:rgb(36,36,36)">
<span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif; color:black; line-height:normal">Direct:
</span><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; color:black; background-color:rgb(255,255,255); line-height:normal">(774) 539-5059</span><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif; color:black; line-height:normal"> </span><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif; color:rgb(237,125,49); line-height:normal">|</span><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif; color:black; line-height:normal"> Email:
jzygmunt@ocpcrpa.org </span></p>
<p style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255); margin:0px; font-family:Calibri,sans-serif; font-size:11pt; color:rgb(36,36,36)">
<span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif; color:rgb(200,83,31); line-height:normal"><b><br>
</b></span></p>
<p style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255); margin:0px; font-family:Calibri,sans-serif; font-size:11pt; color:rgb(36,36,36)">
<span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif; color:rgb(200,83,31); line-height:normal"><b>Old Colony Planning Council</b> </span></p>
<p style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255); margin:0px; font-family:Calibri,sans-serif; font-size:11pt; color:rgb(36,36,36)">
<span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif; line-height:normal">70 School Street, Brockton, MA 02301
</span><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif; color:rgb(237,125,49); background-color:rgb(255,255,255); line-height:normal">|</span><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif; color:black; background-color:rgb(255,255,255); line-height:normal"> Fax (508)
559-8768</span><span style="line-height:normal"> </span></p>
<p style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255); margin:0px; font-family:Calibri,sans-serif; font-size:11pt; color:rgb(36,36,36)">
<span style="line-height:normal"> </span></p>
<p style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255); margin:0px; font-family:Calibri,sans-serif; font-size:11pt; color:rgb(36,36,36)">
<span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif; line-height:normal">Visit our website at
</span><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif; color:rgb(5,99,193); line-height:normal"><a href="https://us-east-2.protection.sophos.com?d=oldcolonyplanning.org&u=aHR0cDovL3d3dy5vbGRjb2xvbnlwbGFubmluZy5vcmcv&i=NjYzOTI5N2MzMjhmODU2ODAzZGYzMDY1&t=S3d0U1U0ZkltSzBibm5SS3ZLT3VhZjdBeFZaSVcyQUl3V2lXdWMycWNVOD0=&h=4c812e60da5a49deb4dc3e962615f810&s=AVNPUEhUT0NFTkNSWVBUSVajCG3pRc5Br_7Uox7yEg5DqSqbuu8DVHUAxfatzHAV0lhMBR5hj2zUL1iPt29yeds" target="_blank" class="x_ContentPasted2" rel="noopener noreferrer" data-auth="NotApplicable" data-safelink="true" data-linkindex="0" data-loopstyle="linkonly" style="color:rgb(5,99,193); margin:0px">www.oldcolonyplanning.org</a></span><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif; color:rgb(68,114,196); line-height:normal"> </span></p>
<p style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255); margin:0px; font-family:Calibri,sans-serif; font-size:11pt; color:rgb(36,36,36)">
<span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif; color:rgb(200,83,31); line-height:normal"><b><a href="https://us-east-2.protection.sophos.com?d=facebook.com&u=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZmFjZWJvb2suY29tL29sZGNvbG9ueXBsYW5uaW5nY291bmNpbC8=&i=NjYzOTI5N2MzMjhmODU2ODAzZGYzMDY1&t=WWhldHplNDJwL1N4anpubjgzWCtzazNpWHc0OVlMcUNzVEtLQ2JsUVZJST0=&h=4c812e60da5a49deb4dc3e962615f810&s=AVNPUEhUT0NFTkNSWVBUSVajCG3pRc5Br_7Uox7yEg5DqSqbuu8DVHUAxfatzHAV0lhMBR5hj2zUL1iPt29yeds" target="_blank" class="x_ContentPasted2" title="https://www.facebook.com/oldcolonyplanningcouncil/" rel="noopener noreferrer" data-auth="NotApplicable" data-linkindex="1" style="margin:0px"><img width="15" height="15" style="width:15px; height:15px; min-width:auto; min-height:auto; margin:0px" data-outlook-trace="F:3|T:3" src="cid:dafb68c1-3605-4726-a6ad-7cebbb2e01ca"></a> <a href="https://us-east-2.protection.sophos.com?d=twitter.com&u=aHR0cHM6Ly90d2l0dGVyLmNvbS9PbGRDb2xvbnlQQw==&i=NjYzOTI5N2MzMjhmODU2ODAzZGYzMDY1&t=cUM5WnpQazVXNWpSdEtlNEJVeFA4VStxaEhRdDk2MHhTaGVzMXR1c3NUYz0=&h=4c812e60da5a49deb4dc3e962615f810&s=AVNPUEhUT0NFTkNSWVBUSVajCG3pRc5Br_7Uox7yEg5DqSqbuu8DVHUAxfatzHAV0lhMBR5hj2zUL1iPt29yeds" target="_blank" class="x_ContentPasted2" title="https://twitter.com/OldColonyPC" rel="noopener noreferrer" data-auth="NotApplicable" data-linkindex="2" style="margin:0px"><img width="14" height="14" style="width:14px; height:14px; min-width:auto; min-height:auto; margin:0px" data-outlook-trace="F:3|T:3" src="cid:5cd8d8fa-a081-4e83-a8c7-3c671e3fff6e"></a> <a href="https://us-east-2.protection.sophos.com?d=instagram.com&u=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaW5zdGFncmFtLmNvbS9vbGRjb2xvbnlwbGFubmluZ2NvdW5jaWwv&i=NjYzOTI5N2MzMjhmODU2ODAzZGYzMDY1&t=VzVrWEFUM2hydXJOeldYcUMyRGF1ZlBSQzJCKzNLYml5b1d6WWJxckVKVT0=&h=4c812e60da5a49deb4dc3e962615f810&s=AVNPUEhUT0NFTkNSWVBUSVajCG3pRc5Br_7Uox7yEg5DqSqbuu8DVHUAxfatzHAV0lhMBR5hj2zUL1iPt29yeds" target="_blank" class="x_ContentPasted2" title="https://www.instagram.com/oldcolonyplanningcouncil/" rel="noopener noreferrer" data-auth="NotApplicable" data-linkindex="3" style="margin:0px"><img width="15" height="15" style="width:15px; height:15px; min-width:auto; min-height:auto; margin:0px" data-outlook-trace="F:3|T:3" src="cid:5869eebc-c8c4-498e-b0f5-8d4e4fd6d73a"></a> <a href="https://us-east-2.protection.sophos.com?d=youtube.com&u=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cueW91dHViZS5jb20vY2hhbm5lbC9VQ3VCY1lFbUMwXzZ6RGpZdnZjQ3dzX0E=&i=NjYzOTI5N2MzMjhmODU2ODAzZGYzMDY1&t=dWpIeVFEajQ2K25OZWx4c2ZJeGZyQ2YvZHFtQVJkQ0Rwa1E1M2VQbE83RT0=&h=4c812e60da5a49deb4dc3e962615f810&s=AVNPUEhUT0NFTkNSWVBUSVajCG3pRc5Br_7Uox7yEg5DqSqbuu8DVHUAxfatzHAV0lhMBR5hj2zUL1iPt29yeds" target="_blank" class="x_ContentPasted2" title="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCuBcYEmC0_6zDjYvvcCws_A" rel="noopener noreferrer" data-auth="NotApplicable" data-linkindex="4" style="margin:0px"><img width="18" height="18" style="width:18px; height:18px; min-width:auto; min-height:auto; margin:0px" data-outlook-trace="F:3|T:3" src="cid:ad5475cd-3cc0-4491-be28-25939db9cb0b"></a> <a href="https://us-east-2.protection.sophos.com?d=linkedin.com&u=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cubGlua2VkaW4uY29tL2NvbXBhbnkvb2xkY29sb255cGxhbm5pbmdjb3VuY2ls&i=NjYzOTI5N2MzMjhmODU2ODAzZGYzMDY1&t=akM1NlFuOUpCZkx6dUcxNzBvUmx0YTh2Z0c0SjNsUXRVZXN1dndSU3lhVT0=&h=4c812e60da5a49deb4dc3e962615f810&s=AVNPUEhUT0NFTkNSWVBUSVajCG3pRc5Br_7Uox7yEg5DqSqbuu8DVHUAxfatzHAV0lhMBR5hj2zUL1iPt29yeds" target="_blank" class="x_ContentPasted2" title="https://www.linkedin.com/company/oldcolonyplanningcouncil" rel="noopener noreferrer" data-auth="NotApplicable" data-linkindex="5" style="margin:0px"><img width="14" height="14" style="width:14px; height:14px; min-width:auto; min-height:auto; margin:0px" data-outlook-trace="F:3|T:3" src="cid:f8b01e54-eb09-4668-8c2f-5f3e0ddd3651"></a></b></span></p>
</div>
<div id="x_appendonsend"></div>
<hr tabindex="-1" style="display:inline-block; width:98%">
<div id="x_divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000" style="font-size:11pt"><b>From:</b> MassPlanners <massplanners-bounces@masscptc.org> on behalf of Andrea A. via MassPlanners <massplanners@masscptc.org><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 16, 2025 10:54 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> webmaster@masscptc.org <webmaster@masscptc.org><br>
<b>Cc:</b> massplanners@masscptc.org <massplanners@masscptc.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Massplanners] massplanners listserv issues</font>
<div> </div>
</div>
<div>
<p dir="ltr">I'd be willing to pay to keep the Listserv running.</p>
<div data-smartmail="gmail_signature">Andrea Adams<br>
Retired Land Use Planner<br>
118 Green Street<br>
Woburn, MA 01801<br>
508-332-8070 </div>
<br>
<div class="x_x_gmail_quote x_x_gmail_quote_container">
<div dir="ltr" class="x_x_gmail_attr">On Tue, Apr 15, 2025, 6:52\u202fPM webmaster--- via MassPlanners <<a href="mailto:massplanners@masscptc.org">massplanners@masscptc.org</a>> wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class="x_x_gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex; border-left:1px #ccc solid; padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">
<div style="line-height:1.38; margin:0in 0in 8pt; font-family:Aptos,Aptos_EmbeddedFont,Aptos_MSFontService,Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)">
Dear massplanners listserv subscribers, </div>
<div style="line-height:1.38; margin:0in 0in 8pt; font-family:Aptos,Aptos_EmbeddedFont,Aptos_MSFontService,Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)">
The administrators have run into a problem with the listserv. We are no longer able to approve new subscribers. There is no known work around for this issue other than allowing anyone to subscribe without review. We are hesitant to use this option.
</div>
<div style="line-height:1.38; margin:0in 0in 8pt; font-family:Aptos,Aptos_EmbeddedFont,Aptos_MSFontService,Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt">
<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">Also, some, and maybe all, subscribers who opted to receive listserv messages in \u2018digest\u2019 form (one email per day) are no longer receiving anything. This can be solved by unselecting the digest option. We have unselected the option
on a case by case basis for subscribers who have contacted us. Subscribers can do this themselves by going to
</span><span style="color:blue"><u><a href="https://us-east-2.protection.sophos.com?d=masscptc.org&u=aHR0cHM6Ly9tYXNzY3B0Yy5vcmcvbWFpbG1hbi9vcHRpb25zL21hc3NwbGFubmVyc19tYXNzY3B0Yy5vcmc=&i=NjYzOTI5N2MzMjhmODU2ODAzZGYzMDY1&t=OGRIaUpLL3V1cjBSdlpzT2VMQlBELzRJOVhKWjhzWGNzY05OMDRFNzhMQT0=&h=4c812e60da5a49deb4dc3e962615f810&s=AVNPUEhUT0NFTkNSWVBUSVajCG3pRc5Br_7Uox7yEg5DqSqbuu8DVHUAxfatzHAV0lhMBR5hj2zUL1iPt29yeds" id="x_x_m_3324310913775563280OWAd93843c9-3caa-1693-8b41-97f3e53d3df4" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" style="color:blue">https://masscptc.org/mailman/options/massplanners_masscptc.org</a></u></span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">.
Scroll down to \u2018Set Digest Mode\u2019 and set to \u2018Off\u2019.</span> </div>
<div style="line-height:1.38; margin:0in 0in 8pt; font-family:Aptos,Aptos_EmbeddedFont,Aptos_MSFontService,Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)">
The person running the server for the listserv and CPTC website believes that a recent update to Python, the underlying server language, is causing a bug in Mailman listserv platform. Normally the bug is fixed in relatively short order. This time that is not
happening. He thinks that may be because the user base for Mailman has declined to the point where it is not considered important. This may be the end of Mailman as a viable listserv platform.
</div>
<div style="line-height:1.38; margin:0in 0in 8pt; font-family:Aptos,Aptos_EmbeddedFont,Aptos_MSFontService,Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)">
We are evaluating moving to another platform. Currently under consideration are Google Groups, Gaggle, and Discourse. Gaggle and Discourse are more feature rich but cost money ($1200/year). Google groups is free but requires subscribers to have a Google account.
</div>
<div style="line-height:1.38; margin:0in 0in 8pt; font-family:Aptos,Aptos_EmbeddedFont,Aptos_MSFontService,Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)">
A reminder that the massplanners listserv is run entirely by volunteers. Shout out to Nathan Chung of Northampton and Mariah Kurtz of FRCOG for their assistance with the evaluation and Tim Czerwienski of Beals Associates Inc. for moderating the listserv.
</div>
<div style="line-height:1.38; margin:0in 0in 8pt; font-family:Aptos,Aptos_EmbeddedFont,Aptos_MSFontService,Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)">
We\u2019ll keep you updated. </div>
<div style="line-height:1.38; margin:0in 0in 8pt; font-family:Aptos,Aptos_EmbeddedFont,Aptos_MSFontService,Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)">
Alan Pease<br>
CPTC </div>
<div style="font-family:Aptos,Aptos_EmbeddedFont,Aptos_MSFontService,Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)">
<br>
</div>
</div>
-- <br>
MassPlanners mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:MassPlanners@masscptc.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">MassPlanners@masscptc.org</a><br>
<a href="https://us-east-2.protection.sophos.com?d=masscptc.org&u=aHR0cDovL21hc3NjcHRjLm9yZy9tYWlsbWFuL2xpc3RpbmZvL21hc3NwbGFubmVyc19tYXNzY3B0Yy5vcmc=&i=NjYzOTI5N2MzMjhmODU2ODAzZGYzMDY1&t=YVkxM1RmYjBGRWcvdlpNTlpWOHpGZUxyOWFMYkFiN3hFSmNzNHJhRC9kdz0=&h=4c812e60da5a49deb4dc3e962615f810&s=AVNPUEhUT0NFTkNSWVBUSVajCG3pRc5Br_7Uox7yEg5DqSqbuu8DVHUAxfatzHAV0lhMBR5hj2zUL1iPt29yeds" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://masscptc.org/mailman/listinfo/massplanners_masscptc.org</a><br>
</blockquote>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</body>
</html>