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<p class="MsoNormal">the question was in the context of regulations in MA. The example below is from Portland Oregon. Are the regulations governing ADUs the same in Oregon as in MA?
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, February 7, 2025 2:45 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Nipun Jain <NIPUN@amesburyma.gov><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Edgartown Planning Board <planningboard@edgartown-ma.us>; Belansky, Evan <ebelansky@chelmsfordma.gov>; massplanners@masscptc.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Massplanners] ADU's - condo-ing<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">See <a href="https://accessorydwellings.org/2024/08/06/a-condo-converted-adu-family-compound/">https://accessorydwellings.org/2024/08/06/a-condo-converted-adu-family-compound/</a>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dwight Merriam, FAICP<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Feb 7, 2025 at 2:22<span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span>PM Nipun Jain via MassPlanners <<a href="mailto:massplanners@masscptc.org">massplanners@masscptc.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">In the scenario described below, the ADU is not “accessory” as defined by regulations.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Do not believe that the ADU can become a condominium unit.
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Edgartown Planning Board via MassPlanners<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, February 7, 2025 11:52 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Belansky, Evan <<a href="mailto:ebelansky@chelmsfordma.gov" target="_blank">ebelansky@chelmsfordma.gov</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:massplanners@masscptc.org" target="_blank">massplanners@masscptc.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Massplanners] ADU's - condo-ing</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">From where I sit:
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Given a single parcel - <br>
Given two approved dwellings - <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I think that the association has the right to establish a condo association, and sell the separate dwellings to separate persons.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I think that the AG would not approve a Zoning Bylaws attempting to regulate the ownership of a private dwelling.<o:p></o:p></p>
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That being said - <br>
A town would likely earn more tax revenue if the two structures were held in separate ownership - each would become principal <br>
if both structures are served by the same septic system or well, there are health regulations that would likely kick in like an addled mule.<br>
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Westhampton nee Edgartown.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On Fri, Feb 7, 2025 at 11:26<span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span>AM Belansky, Evan via MassPlanners <<a href="mailto:massplanners@masscptc.org" target="_blank">massplanners@masscptc.org</a>>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Maybe this is a Friday question. Certainly not any other day question.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Still waiting for any intelligent insight?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Evan bBlansky</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Belansky, Evan
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 3, 2025 2:44 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:massplanners@masscptc.org" target="_blank">massplanners@masscptc.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: ADU's - condo-ing</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">I have received several conflicting responses……big surprise!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Can anyone provide insight into this?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Any formal / official input from HLC?
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Thanks</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Evan Belansky</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Belansky, Evan
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, January 31, 2025 10:46 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:massplanners@masscptc.org" target="_blank">massplanners@masscptc.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> ADU's - condo-ing</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Good morning and happy Friday.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Do the ADU regulations speak to condo-ing ?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">I see specific mention of rental, but not ownership.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Thanks</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Notice: Please be aware the Massachusetts Secretary of State has determined that most emails to and from the City of Amesbury are public records and therefore cannot be kept confidential.<br>
<a href="https://malegislature.gov/Laws/GeneralLaws/PartI/TitleX/Chapter66/Section10/" target="_blank">MGL: Chpt.66, Sec.10 Public Records Law.</a>
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Notice: Please be aware the Massachusetts Secretary of State has determined that most emails to and from the City of Amesbury are public records and therefore cannot be kept confidential.<br>
<a href="https://malegislature.gov/Laws/GeneralLaws/PartI/TitleX/Chapter66/Section10/">MGL: Chpt.66, Sec.10 Public Records Law.</a>
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