<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">I would confirm in writing (letter) the Board’s action and file a copy with the Town Clerk, especially since a vote is required to permit withdrawal—whether it is with or without prejudice.<div><br></div><div><br id="lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage"><div>
<div>Lois S. Barbour, Chair<br>Norwell Board of Appeals<br><a href="mailto:lsbarbour@gmail.com">lsbarbour@gmail.com</a></div><div><br></div>
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<div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Dec 5, 2024, at 4:44 PM, TownPlanner via MassPlanners <massplanners@masscptc.org> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div><meta charset="UTF-8"><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: ArialMT; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Thank you for all the advice, it is not a typo, it is a request to withdraw WITH prejudice. <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">A preliminary thought from Counsel, was no action was needed and rights to return with a repetitive application would be impacted for two years.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </span></p><div><div style="border-width: 1pt medium medium; border-style: solid none none; border-color: rgb(225, 225, 225) currentcolor currentcolor; border-image: none; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;"><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Barbara Carboni <<a href="mailto:bcarboni@truro-ma.gov" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">bcarboni@truro-ma.gov</a>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Thursday, December 5, 2024 4:29 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Daniel Fortier <<a href="mailto:daniel.j.fortier@gmail.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">daniel.j.fortier@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>TownPlanner <<a href="mailto:townplanner@townofbolton.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">townplanner@townofbolton.com</a>>; Listserv (<a href="mailto:massplanners@masscptc.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">massplanners@masscptc.org</a>) <<a href="mailto:massplanners@masscptc.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">massplanners@masscptc.org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>RE: [Massplanners] Withdrawl with prejudice</span></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"> </p><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Respectfully disagree. If the application is withdrawn, even with prejudice, there is nothing for the Board to act upon. There is nothing to make findings about. It’s the applicant’s decision to withdraw with prejudice (if that is in fact what they seek to do). It does affect their rights, but it is not a denial and shouldn’t be treated as one.</span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </span></p><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Barbara Carboni</span></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Town Planner/Land Use Counsel</span></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Town of Truro</span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </span></p><div><div style="border-width: 1pt medium medium; border-style: solid none none; border-color: rgb(225, 225, 225) currentcolor currentcolor; border-image: none; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;"><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Daniel Fortier <<a href="mailto:daniel.j.fortier@gmail.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">daniel.j.fortier@gmail.com</a>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Thursday, December 5, 2024 4:23 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Barbara Carboni <<a href="mailto:bcarboni@truro-ma.gov" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">bcarboni@truro-ma.gov</a>><br><b>Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>TownPlanner <<a href="mailto:townplanner@townofbolton.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">townplanner@townofbolton.com</a>>; Listserv (<a href="mailto:massplanners@masscptc.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">massplanners@masscptc.org</a>) <<a href="mailto:massplanners@masscptc.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">massplanners@masscptc.org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Massplanners] Withdrawl with prejudice</span></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"> </p><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;">Withdraw without prejudice, they can refile the next day, no problem. <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"> </p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;">Withdraw with prejudice affects property rights as they cannot return for two years, thus having the same impact as a denial. Only had one with prejudice, and the Board made appropriate findings on the issues that distinguished it from a non-prejudicial withdrawal. </div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"> </p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;">I advise caution, or simply putting it into the without prejudice basket.</div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"> </p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;">Dan Fortier, AICP Retired Planner </div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"> </p><div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;">On Thu, Dec 5, 2024, 3:11<span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"> </span>PM Barbara Carboni <<a href="mailto:bcarboni@truro-ma.gov" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">bcarboni@truro-ma.gov</a>> wrote:</div></div><blockquote style="border-width: medium medium medium 1pt; border-style: none none none solid; border-color: currentcolor currentcolor currentcolor rgb(204, 204, 204); border-image: none; padding: 0in 0in 0in 6pt; margin: 5pt 0in 5pt 4.8pt;" type="cite"><div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Hi Dan, not sure I agree. A withdrawal (without or without prejudice) does not result in a decision by the Board. The application is being withdrawn, so the Board is neither approving nor denying the application. Since there is no decision by the Board, there is nothing to appeal, so nothing to defend in court.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </span></p><div><div style="border-width: 1pt medium medium; border-style: solid none none; border-color: rgb(225, 225, 225) currentcolor currentcolor; border-image: none; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;"><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>MassPlanners <<a href="mailto:massplanners-bounces@masscptc.org" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">massplanners-bounces@masscptc.org</a>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Daniel Fortier via MassPlanners<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Thursday, December 5, 2024 4:04 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>TownPlanner <<a href="mailto:townplanner@townofbolton.com" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">townplanner@townofbolton.com</a>><br><b>Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:massplanners@masscptc.org" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">massplanners@masscptc.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Massplanners] Withdrawl with prejudice</span></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"> </p><div>Wow, with prejudice usually would require a set of findings that are defensable in court as it acts as a denial. Any withdrawal requires a vote, but more effort is needed with prejudice. Generally, unless there was a really good reason, I go with withdraw without prejudice.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></div><div>Dan Fortier, AICP Retired Planner<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"> </p><div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;">On Thu, Dec 5, 2024, 2:55<span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"> </span>PM TownPlanner via MassPlanners <<a href="mailto:massplanners@masscptc.org" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">massplanners@masscptc.org</a>> wrote:</div></div><blockquote style="border-width: medium medium medium 1pt; border-style: none none none solid; border-color: currentcolor currentcolor currentcolor rgb(204, 204, 204); border-image: none; padding: 0in 0in 0in 6pt; margin: 5pt 0in 5pt 4.8pt;" type="cite"><div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;">Hello, I have an advertised hearing noticed to abutters etc. and the applicant has requested to withdraw with prejudice. Has anyone experienced this before?. I assume it results in the prohibition of a repetitive application but does it require a vote of the ZBA or a simple acknowledgement of the written request at the meeting? Thank you.</div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"> </p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"> </p><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Garamond, serif; color: rgb(68, 84, 106);"><br>Pamela Harding, AICP<br>Town Planner</span></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Garamond, serif; color: rgb(68, 84, 106);">Town of Bolton</span></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Garamond, serif; color: rgb(68, 84, 106);"><a href="https://www.google.com/maps/search/663+Main+Street+Bolton,+MA+01740?entry=gmail&source=g" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">663 Main Street</a></span></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Garamond, serif; color: rgb(68, 84, 106);"><a href="https://www.google.com/maps/search/663+Main+Street+Bolton,+MA+01740?entry=gmail&source=g" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">Bolton, MA 01740</a></span><span style="font-family: Garamond, serif; color: rgb(68, 84, 106);"><br><br>Phone: (978) 779-3308<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Garamond, serif; color: rgb(68, 84, 106);">Fax (978) 779-5461</span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Garamond, serif; color: rgb(68, 84, 106);"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"> </p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"> </p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;">--<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>MassPlanners mailing list<br><a href="mailto:MassPlanners@masscptc.org" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">MassPlanners@masscptc.org</a><br><a href="http://masscptc.org/mailman/listinfo/massplanners_masscptc.org" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">http://masscptc.org/mailman/listinfo/massplanners_masscptc.org</a></div></blockquote></div><div style="border: 1pt solid rgb(156, 101, 0); padding: 2pt;"><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; line-height: 12pt; background: rgb(255, 235, 156);"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(156, 101, 0);">CAUTION:</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>This email originated from outside of the organization. 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