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--></style></head><body lang="EN-US" link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#1f497d">Chris,</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#1f497d">I’m not too familiar with Belmont’s zoning but we are hearing our escalating inclusionary bylaw is also paying a part in choking mixed use development. Too many wants to make a project economically feasible. In our case pretty much everything is vacant land ground up construction. </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#1f497d">I’m hearing they need to get $24.00 per square foot for commercial to make it feasible. Still working on validating that number. </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#1f497d">Best,</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Bookman Old Style",serif;color:#1f497d">Richard J. McCarthy, Jr.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Bookman Old Style",serif;color:#1f497d">Town Planner</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Bookman Old Style",serif;color:#1f497d">1 Liberty Lane</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Bookman Old Style",serif;color:#1f497d">Norfolk, MA 02056</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Bookman Old Style",serif;color:#1f497d">508-440-2807</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Bookman Old Style",serif;color:#1f497d">Office Hours- Monday through Thursday 9am to 6pm</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Bookman Old Style",serif;color:#1f497d">Closed Fridays</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Bookman Old Style",serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:red">As a reminder, please do not reply all to this email. If you have any questions or comments, email me directly. </span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:red"> </span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:red">Please be advised that the Secretary of State has determined that e-mail sent by or received by municipal employees is a public record.</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:red"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Bookman Old Style",serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Ryan, Christopher <<a href="mailto:cryan@belmont-ma.gov">cryan@belmont-ma.gov</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, July 16, 2024 3:25 PM<br><b>To:</b> Richard McCarthy <<a href="mailto:rmccarthy@norfolk.ma.us">rmccarthy@norfolk.ma.us</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> Mass Planners <<a href="mailto:massplanners@masscptc.org">massplanners@masscptc.org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [EXTERNAL]Mandatory Mixed Use - 3A Zoning Question</p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Thanks, will do.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">One issue has been the assertion that at some point, the market will change and 3 stories will be feasible again…..maybe, maybe not.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">So logically, we zone for a desired outcome, not a market condition. But who knows if the state might balk at 3 story MMU based on development feasibility. I wonder if they’ve had the opportunity to evaluate this as yet.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Chris</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Richard McCarthy <<a href="mailto:rmccarthy@norfolk.ma.us">rmccarthy@norfolk.ma.us</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, July 16, 2024 2:01 PM<br><b>To:</b> Ryan, Christopher <<a href="mailto:cryan@belmont-ma.gov">cryan@belmont-ma.gov</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> Mass Planners <<a href="mailto:massplanners@masscptc.org">massplanners@masscptc.org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL]Mandatory Mixed Use - 3A Zoning Question</p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><div style="border:solid #9c6500 1.0pt;padding:2.0pt 2.0pt 2.0pt 2.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:12.0pt;background:#ffeb9c"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#9c6500">CAUTION:</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black"> This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe.</span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#1f497d">Chris,</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#1f497d">It’s a challenging question to answer. I’m sure you know there are so many variables in doing mixed use. We struggle with the same questions here. I remember 3 years ago when we working on increasing building height from 2 ½ stories to 3 stories people were very concerned. We have a great mixed use building in town center that is 2 ½ stories that is fully occupied. We explained how that project at 2 ½ stories was pretty unique in that that a local bank owned the property received site plan approval couldn’t afford to build a standalone bank. The bank partnered bank with a local developer to build a mixed use building which they are a tenant with other tenants. </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#1f497d">We are tackling this topic again if I have anything I will share.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#1f497d">Please share what you have.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#1f497d">Thanks. </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Bookman Old Style",serif;color:#1f497d">Richard J. McCarthy, Jr.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Bookman Old Style",serif;color:#1f497d">Town Planner</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Bookman Old Style",serif;color:#1f497d">1 Liberty Lane</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Bookman Old Style",serif;color:#1f497d">Norfolk, MA 02056</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Bookman Old Style",serif;color:#1f497d">508-440-2807</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Bookman Old Style",serif;color:#1f497d">Office Hours- Monday through Thursday 9am to 6pm</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Bookman Old Style",serif;color:#1f497d">Closed Fridays</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Bookman Old Style",serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:red">As a reminder, please do not reply all to this email. If you have any questions or comments, email me directly. </span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:red"> </span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:red">Please be advised that the Secretary of State has determined that e-mail sent by or received by municipal employees is a public record.</span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Bookman Old Style",serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> MassPlanners <<a href="mailto:massplanners-bounces@masscptc.org">massplanners-bounces@masscptc.org</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ryan, Christopher via MassPlanners<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, July 16, 2024 10:55 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:massplanners@masscptc.org">massplanners@masscptc.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [Massplanners] Mandatory Mixed Use - 3A Zoning Question</p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Good morning planners</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">I am having a lot of trouble finding resources to verify an assumption that mixed use buildings are generally not viable at 3 stories and require at least 3 stories of residential in addition to the ground floor commercial to be feasible to develop in the current market. We’ve been counseled on this by several consultants but have not been able to find any journal articles, newspaper pieces, memos, white papers, or anything else that definitively provides evidence for this.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Since we are seeking to establish a mandatory mixed use zoning subdistrict in Belmont, we’d like to be able to provide information to our citizens who are skeptical about this assumption and would rather we limit MMU to 3 stories total. Does anyone have information which could help us with our outreach for this provision?</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Thanks in advance,</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Chris R.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal">====================================================</p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style",serif">Christopher J. Ryan, AICP, Ph.D.</span></i></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Bookman Old Style",serif">Director of Planning & Building</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Bookman Old Style",serif">Town of Belmont</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Bookman Old Style",serif">19 Moore Street</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Bookman Old Style",serif">Belmont, MA 02478-0900</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Bookman Old Style",serif">Tel: 617.993.2658</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style",serif">Email: </span><span style="font-family:"Calibri Light",sans-serif"><a href="mailto:cryan@belmont-ma.gov">cryan@belmont-ma.gov</a></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style",serif">Web: </span><span style="font-family:"Calibri Light",sans-serif"><a href="https://www.belmont-ma.gov/office-of-planning-building">https://www.belmont-ma.gov/office-of-planning-building</a></span><span style="font-family:"Bookman Old Style",serif"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal">===================================================</p><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div></div></body></html>