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<p class="MsoNormal">I have to agree with what Chris has said, the threat of peer review and the cost has generally allowed us to work with the project proponents and come up with a better plan that Boards can endorse. I have relied upon using Peer Review
on only a couple occasions, and in more than one of them so that it was not the Town Planner telling the public that the proposal they are seeing is “good” from a traffic or environmental point of view.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">But, as Heidi notes, it helps to have seasoned planners, and that the small rural towns do not all have access to professional staff. 53G is good, but, use it skillfully and not as your first offensive.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dan Fortier<o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Chris Yarworth via MassPlanners<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 14, 2022 4:59 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Barbara Carboni <bcarboni@truro-ma.gov><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Eric Loth <ELoth@mincocorp.com>; massplanners@masscptc.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [External] Re: [Massplanners] Staff Planner Positions<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">As a licensed engineer, who has for the last nine years switched over to the planning side of things, I have perhaps a different perspective on this matter. I have found over my many years in private engineering practice that there tend
to be two types of planners. There are those who view their boards and roles as strictly regulatory (and will only review the projects that are placed in front of them for compliance), and those who more actively offer suggestions and comments throughout
the process. The 53G peer reviewers usually only see the finished project, and that is often all they comment on. There are often multiple ways to design a site, and having an in-house engineering staff, or knowledgeable planner, can often enable discussions prior
to the final submittal. That person usually has a better idea of local problems and issues than an out of town reviewer, and early input usually results in a better final project. I always send projects out for a final review to a 53G consultant, but often
coordinate during the design phase to offer comments on alternatives that arise. Often we get peer review money upfront, before submittal, so that coordination with the reviewer is possible early on. Also, if a project comes in that appears to be poorly
designed, I often refuse to send it out for engineering review until after the public hearing and discussion by the Board. The developers do not usually appreciate that approach, but I don't want to be in a position where the engineering design works, but
the overall project is poorly laid out from a planning perspective. In summary, I would say it doesn't have to be an either-or approach. There is a place for both in house and outside review on most projects. However, I do agree with Valerie that it is
important that the final design be by the project engineer, and any in house reviews are comments only, so as to be careful of raising any liability issues.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Mar 14, 2022 at 4:19 PM Barbara Carboni via MassPlanners <<a href="mailto:massplanners@masscptc.org">massplanners@masscptc.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Adopt provisions of G.L. c. 44, s. 53G and require applicant to deposit funds into account to pay peer reviewer. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Barbara Carboni<o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Minco Nbpt via MassPlanners<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 14, 2022 2:02 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Danielson, Stephanie <<a href="mailto:SDanielson@easton.ma.us" target="_blank">SDanielson@easton.ma.us</a>>;
<a href="mailto:massplanners@masscptc.org" target="_blank">massplanners@masscptc.org</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Eric Loth <<a href="mailto:ELoth@Mincocorp.com">ELoth@Mincocorp.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Massplanners] Staff Planner Positions<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">We would prefer stormwater designs to be reviewed by a qualified 3<sup>rd</sup> party engineer.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Karen Pollastrino<o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Danielson, Stephanie via MassPlanners<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, March 11, 2022 11:55 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:massplanners@masscptc.org" target="_blank">massplanners@masscptc.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Massplanners] Staff Planner Positions<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Wondering how many/if any towns have planning staff that have engineering background and who review stormwater designs for projects in permitting as part of their responsibilities.<o:p></o:p></p>
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