[Massplanners] [EXTERNAL]Re: [EXTERNAL]Re: ADU Units
Harry LaCortiglia
hlacortiglia at comcast.net
Sat Feb 15 05:46:42 EST 2025
It's enormously disappointing for communities that have worked so hard
to achieve that greater than 10% level to know it will soon be eroded
away with every additional ADU.
Then cometh the 40B's...
Enjoy the shoveling!
H. LaCortiglia
Georgetown P.B.
On 2/14/2025 8:30 AM, Ryan, Christopher wrote:
>
> Great points and I am sure these situations may arise. I was also
> floored by the fact that these units count in an overall local housing
> inventory. That’s sure to create a firestorm in any community short of
> 10% but actively sweating it out to faithfully add affordable units.
>
> Have a good weekend!
>
> Chris R.
>
> *From:*Harry LaCortiglia <hlacortiglia at comcast.net>
> *Sent:* Friday, February 14, 2025 7:18 AM
> *To:* Ryan, Christopher <cryan at belmont-ma.gov>
> *Cc:* 'Mass Planners' <massplanners at masscptc.org>
> *Subject:* [EXTERNAL]Re: [EXTERNAL]Re: [Massplanners] ADU Units
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> Hi Ryan,
>
> I hope the discussion can continue.
>
> For instance... Which one of those 20 condos on that hypothetical
> single lot gets the ADU? The first one to apply?
>
> Where on the lot it would be placed, if it were to be a detached unit,
> could make for some lively condo board meetings. (and litigation...)
>
> Could a building permit be issued without the express written
> "permission" of the Association?
>
> So many questions...
>
> Happy Valentines Friday!
>
> H. LaCortiglia
> Georgetown
>
> On 2/13/2025 8:40 AM, Ryan, Christopher wrote:
>
> Hi Harry
>
> Great last question. Our Counsel opined that only one Protected
> Use ADU per legal lot can be established, so if the condo was on
> one lot and had 20 units, only one ADU would be permitted. Of
> course, the Condo R&Rs would need some level of specificity
> (likely lacking now) that would facilitate how that could be done.
> They also deemed the “primary dwelling” to be the largest of the
> buildings on the lot. I am not sure of that rationale, but
> hopefully we keep this analysis and discussion going.
>
> Best,
>
> Chris R.
>
> Town of Belmont
>
> *From:*MassPlanners <massplanners-bounces at masscptc.org>
> <mailto:massplanners-bounces at masscptc.org> *On Behalf ,*
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> *Of *Harry LaCortiglia via MassPlanners
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 13, 2025 8:24 AM
> *To:* massplanners at masscptc.org
> *Subject:* [EXTERNAL]Re: [Massplanners] ADU Units
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> Is it Friday already?
>
> There is a mention in the final regs (CMR 71.03 (2) (d)) under
> /Prohibited Regulations,/ that Protected Use ADU's can't count in
> density calculations.
>
> /(d) Unit Caps & Density. Any limit, quota or other restriction on
> the number of Protected
> Use ADUs that may be permitted, constructed, or leased within a
> Municipality or Zoning
> District. *Protected Use ADUs shall not be counted in any density
> calculations.*/
>
> So, do ADU's only count when one is _not_ using the number for a
> density calculation? ("Density Calculations" is not defined in
> 71.02...)
>
> Perhaps EOHLC will someday clarify... I'm still wondering if every
> condo in a multi condo development can have their very own ADU.
>
> H. LaCortiglia
> Georgetown P.B.
>
> On 2/12/2025 3:30 PM, Richard McCarthy via MassPlanners wrote:
>
> Good afternoon,
>
> I believe an ADU will count towards our total dwelling unit
> count. Is that correct?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Richard J. McCarthy, Jr.
>
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