[Massplanners] [EXTERNAL]RE: [EXTERNAL]Re: [EXTERNAL]Re: ADU Units

Ryan, Christopher cryan at belmont-ma.gov
Fri Feb 14 10:58:59 EST 2025


Agree. I think EOHLC needs to rethink these outcomes and offer some provision for a short-cut to affordable status for some ADUs.

Chris

From: ruralplanningassociates at crocker.com <ruralplanningassociates at crocker.com>
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2025 10:55 AM
To: Ryan, Christopher <cryan at belmont-ma.gov>; 'Harry LaCortiglia' <hlacortiglia at comcast.net>
Cc: 'Mass Planners' <massplanners at masscptc.org>
Subject: [EXTERNAL]RE: [Massplanners] [EXTERNAL]Re: [EXTERNAL]Re: ADU Units

CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe.

Chris:

Exactly! The new EOHLC regulations are a double whammy for towns. Not including small ADUs as affordable (or even as half an affordable unit), does nothing for the numerator in the SHI 10% calculation; while counting these little units as full market-rate dwellings bumps up the denominator. End result is towns that add desired ADUs only fall farther behind in attempting to reach their affordable housing goals.

Jeff Lacy
Rural Planning Associates
896 Graves Road
Conway, MA 01341
ruralplanningassociates at crocker.com<mailto:ruralplanningassociates at crocker.com>
(413) 230-9693



From: MassPlanners <massplanners-bounces at masscptc.org<mailto:massplanners-bounces at masscptc.org>> On Behalf Of Ryan, Christopher via MassPlanners
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2025 8:30 AM
To: Harry LaCortiglia <hlacortiglia at comcast.net<mailto:hlacortiglia at comcast.net>>
Cc: 'Mass Planners' <massplanners at masscptc.org<mailto:massplanners at masscptc.org>>
Subject: Re: [Massplanners] [EXTERNAL]Re: [EXTERNAL]Re: ADU Units

Great points and I am sure these situations may arise. I was also floored by the fact that these units count in an overall local housing inventory. That’s sure to create a firestorm in any community short of 10% but actively sweating it out to faithfully add affordable units.

Have a good weekend!

Chris R.

From: Harry LaCortiglia <hlacortiglia at comcast.net<mailto:hlacortiglia at comcast.net>>
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2025 7:18 AM
To: Ryan, Christopher <cryan at belmont-ma.gov<mailto:cryan at belmont-ma.gov>>
Cc: 'Mass Planners' <massplanners at masscptc.org<mailto:massplanners at masscptc.org>>
Subject: [EXTERNAL]Re: [EXTERNAL]Re: [Massplanners] ADU Units

CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe.


Hi Ryan,

I hope the discussion can continue.

For instance... Which one of those 20 condos on that hypothetical single lot gets the ADU? The first one to apply?

Where on the lot it would be placed, if it were to be a detached unit, could make for some lively condo board meetings. (and litigation...)

Could a building permit be issued without the express written "permission" of the Association?

So many questions...

Happy Valentines Friday!
H. LaCortiglia
Georgetown


On 2/13/2025 8:40 AM, Ryan, Christopher wrote:
Hi Harry

Great last question. Our Counsel opined that only one Protected Use ADU per legal lot can be established, so if the condo was on one lot and had 20 units, only one ADU would be permitted. Of course, the Condo R&Rs would need some level of specificity (likely lacking now) that would facilitate how that could be done. They also deemed the “primary dwelling” to be the largest of the buildings on the lot. I am not sure of that rationale, but hopefully we keep this analysis and discussion going.

Best,

Chris R.
Town of Belmont

From: MassPlanners <massplanners-bounces at masscptc.org><mailto:massplanners-bounces at masscptc.org> On Behalf ,
Of Harry LaCortiglia via MassPlanners
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2025 8:24 AM
To: massplanners at masscptc.org<mailto:massplanners at masscptc.org>
Subject: [EXTERNAL]Re: [Massplanners] ADU Units

CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe.


Is it Friday already?

There is a mention in the final regs (CMR 71.03 (2) (d)) under Prohibited Regulations, that Protected Use ADU's can't count in density calculations.

(d) Unit Caps & Density. Any limit, quota or other restriction on the number of Protected
Use ADUs that may be permitted, constructed, or leased within a Municipality or Zoning
District. Protected Use ADUs shall not be counted in any density calculations.

So, do ADU's only count when one is not using the number for a density calculation? ("Density Calculations" is not defined in 71.02...)

Perhaps EOHLC will someday clarify... I'm still wondering if every condo in a multi condo development can have their very own ADU.
H. LaCortiglia
Georgetown P.B.


On 2/12/2025 3:30 PM, Richard McCarthy via MassPlanners wrote:
[cid:image001.gif at 01DB7ECF.73308010]
Good afternoon,

I believe an ADU will count towards our total dwelling unit count. Is that correct?

Thanks.

Richard J. McCarthy, Jr.
Town Planner
1 Liberty Lane
Norfolk, MA 02056
508-440-2807
Office Hours- Monday through Thursday 9am to 6pm
Closed Fridays

As a reminder, please do not reply all to this email. If you have any questions or comments, email me directly.

Please be advised that the Secretary of State has determined that e-mail sent by or received by municipal employees is a public record.



-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://masscptc.org/pipermail/massplanners_masscptc.org/attachments/20250214/85160d84/attachment.htm>
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: image001.gif
Type: image/gif
Size: 906 bytes
Desc: image001.gif
URL: <http://masscptc.org/pipermail/massplanners_masscptc.org/attachments/20250214/85160d84/attachment.gif>


More information about the MassPlanners mailing list